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julie_warwick
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 31, 2013 4:57:44 AM Quote
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Hi everyone
after being diagnosed in September was told I would be seen monthly by a nurse at least ,well that didn't happen ! have been on MTX for 10 weeks now , no improvement , in fact I am worse , also on pred. but on GPs advice trying to reduce it as having problems , feel bloody awful , tired , dizzy , weepy ( can't imagine why ! ) and now after counting the days till I see the consultant in January I get a letter postponing it till march and not seeing nurse till april !! anyone else feel like they are floundering about on their own ?
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 31, 2013 10:18:57 AM Quote
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Hi Julie

It sounds as if you are in an awful predicament. Are you able to contact nurse/consultant/secretary to explain your plight and ask for earlier (or any) appointments? Horrible to think of you being left like this.

Do you have any support groups where you are?

I do hope you get some relief soon.

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Angie x
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Paul Barrett
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 31, 2013 10:39:00 AM Quote
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Oh dear Julie - how awful.

Let's try and offer you some advice based on my experience. MTX can take a minimum of 3 months to take effect. You don't say whether you are on tabs of injections, but for me the tabs were ultimately no good as I was noit absorbing them. It sounds like you are from the side effects you are listing.

MTX requires monthly blood tests. Have you been having those? If you are then next time explain your problem and insist on speaking to the rheumy nurse (often the nurse specialist does not do the actual blood tests but is present in the clinic).

Next you need a tw-pronged attack re your consultant appointment. Call your rheumy nurse and tell them you have problems and get you GP to take up your case too.

It's a shame you have to expend energy like this when you are feeling low, I hope you are feeling better soon.
Paul Barrett

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julie_warwick
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:30:06 AM Quote
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thanks everyone. going to email nurse and request a phone call as don't think I'll get anyone over the holiday. I have been having blood tests monthly and seeing gp as blood pressure high , hence tapering of pred. she is pretty clueless regarding RA and has the empathy of a house brick ! just wanted to have a rant really. makes me really cross that we get left dangling with little support sometimes. thanks for being there x
gogs
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:34:51 AM Quote
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Dear Julie,

Your 'care' is totally unacceptable and needs challenging soon by you.
Admittedly when we are feeling very low and unwell that's the last thing we want to do.

I have given you here a link to the NICE guidelines that every patient should have and know about.
Read it carefully then take it to your GP and point out that these guidelines are not being met.

If you get no joy there then phone the helpline at the hospital, speak with the nurse and tell her the guidelines are not being met.

http://www.nice.org.uk/n...e/14198/64284/64284.pdf

I wish you all the luck, I had a similar experience, fortunately for me my GP agreed, I went for a second opinion and the consultant also agreed with me,
I am now being looked after in a way that can only be described as first class by an amazing and hugely sensitive consultant.

Best wishes,
Gogs xx
suzanne_p
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:00:59 PM Quote
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hi Julie,

so sorry to hear how bad you are feeling,

can't offer any more advice than the others have already given,

if it were me i would be straight onto my Rheumy Nurse, if she's not able to answer the phone we get a call back within the day, of course today is a bit tricky i should think, and also as Paul says my GP who is fully on the ball as far as RA is concerned,

you can't be left feeling like this, do let's know if you hear back from the Nurse.

Best Wishes,

Suzanne
Kathleen_C
#7 Posted : Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:20:35 PM Quote
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Hi Julie,

That`s a most unsatisfactory state of affairs - no wonder you are struggling. You definitely need to contact your rheumy nurse, as you deserve better monitoring. Most people are given fortnightly blood tests when first beginning MTX, at least they are where I live. I also think a call from your GP to your rheumy consultant is in order, if only to let him/her know about the reduction in prednisolone. My own GP wouldn`t make any changes to treatment without checking with my rheumy - indeed he has done so in the past.

You could also contact the NRAS Helpline, as they will provide support for you.

Like Gogs, I changed rheumies because of poor treatment - in fact I changed hospitals, and now I have the best possible care. Incidentally, that was my GP`s suggestion, but NRAS were very helpful too.

Good luck,

Kathleen x

julie_warwick
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 01, 2014 5:11:23 AM Quote
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thanks girls , my gp did speak to consultant before changing pred. dose , feel a bit more myself so back on the case tomorrow guns blazing I think, thanks again and a very happy new year to you all x
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#9 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 10:11:34 AM Quote
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How's it going Julie? Did you go in all guns blazing and get the help you needed? Smile
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julie_warwick
#10 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 5:42:53 PM Quote
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Hi angie
I wish !! on new years day I sent an email to nurse explaining my problems so it would be waiting for them when the clinic got back to normal requesting a call back , nothing yesterday so called them this morning again requesting a call as the person answering the phone wasn't a specialist nurse , nothing again this afternoon... aarrgghh !!! I appreciate they are busy and probably have a backlog after the holidays but hello.. anyone out there ?! will try again tomorrow. thanks for thinking of me x
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#11 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 6:41:13 PM Quote
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hi Julie,

i know how each area varies with the care from Rheumatology Departments. this was made very clear to me from an NRAS meeting i went to nearly 4 years ago now.

i had to phone my Nurse this morning .. left a message just after 8 a.m. on the voice mail, and she had phoned me back before 11.00 a.m. i know i am lucky in this respect but luck shouldn't come into it.

is your GP good with all things RA. maybe call the surgery for help on Monday.

are you feeling as awful as when you first posted? i know how vunerable you can feel when suffering, hope to hear some positive news from you soon.

Suzanne

gogs
#12 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 10:59:39 PM Quote
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Oh Julie,

Things are never ending for you at the moment.

At my last hospital the 'help' line was as helpful as yours is!!!

If you get no joy then go back to your GP again, he's the go-between - so use him!

What a mess, I'm so sorry for you.

Gogs xx
julie_warwick
#13 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 6:45:41 AM Quote
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still feeling pretty grim but not so bad as before. GP seems fairly clueless regarding RA and she's a bit of an old schoolmarm , don't get warm fuzzy feelings about her.. my last GP was lovely but have recently moved. got an appointment to see her in a week anyway. will keep trying helpline. the nurse I saw before was lovely , it's the system that's wrong isn't it ? just makes me mad that they don't think that something as simple to them as rescheduling an appointment has a huge impact on our life. will keep you posted x
Paul Barrett
#14 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 10:11:45 AM Quote
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I think you have outlined the most practical approach you can take - the Rheumy nurses are in a position to get your appointment brought forward. And if you call the contact centre that sends out the appointments they too may be able to help you directly by finding a cancellation
Paul Barrett

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SueB
#15 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 2:15:13 PM Quote
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Hi Julie
In the past when I have gad problems getting appointments I have rung the booking centre and asked about cancellations. It often means ringing every day but if you are able to take an appointment at short notice it can work. I always found them sympathetic and helpful. They were pleased to fill what would otherwise be empty appointment slots. It is worth a try.
Good luck
SueSmile
julie_warwick
#16 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 8:15:48 AM Quote
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went to get my routine bloods done at the hospital yesterday and spoke to the receptionist about my problems getting to talk to my nurse and a lovely nurse behind me at the desk said she would try and find someone. a rheum. nurse I hadn't seen before came out and initially was quite shirty when I said I didn't know what I was doing with my meds. saying she couldn't see my problem and was quite dismissive but I obviously looked like I was going to have a meltdown so she said if I could wait an hour she had a cancellation and would see me. she was actually very nice and helpful , disappeared from the room and came back with a consultant !! stunned ! he advised me to up my mtx and not to reduce my pred. yet until I see my consultant in march. feeling a bit better that I have something different to try, hoping increased dose won't bring side effects as so far I have been lucky. thanks for all your support x
Paul Barrett
#17 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 9:22:48 AM Quote
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I am glad you were able to get through to the Rheumy Nurse. They are great simply because they have access to consultants as you found. Hope you soon feel better
Paul Barrett

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Angiecha
#18 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 10:19:16 AM Quote
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Shame you had to pretty much have a meltdown to get there - but great that you have achieved a good result.

Wish you the best of luck with the revised meds.

Don't forget, you won't be abandoned here!

Angie X
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JayneM
#19 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 11:44:58 AM Quote
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Hi Julie, glad to hear that you finally received some help! I was diagnosed with RA in 2001 & over the years
I have definitely become more assertive regarding my treatment. All too easy to feel overwhelmed & abandoned.

I have been taking Methotrexate for 8 years & at first I felt sick, knackered & basically unwell. Then at 12 weeks, almost
overnight, I felt amazing. No pain, no swelling, increased energy, brilliant. It didn't last for ever & has been a bit up & down
over the years & I am now on anti tnf meds but hopefully you will find MTX helpful. I do take 200mg of Hydroxychloroquine daily
& my consultant said that for some patients, adding this drug to MTX can work very well.

My GP, who at least had some grasp of RA retired 2 years ago & now patients basically see anyone who is available. When
I wanted some advice after my injection site swelled when I first started Cimzia, the GP I spoke to said, he'd never heard of it,didn't know anyone who took it & couldn't help!! (Eventhough I had been to the surgery & spoke to a GP to advise that I was starting anti tnf - you would think, just out of curiosity, the Gp's would spend 5 mins reading the info on this site!!)

My consultant, who has been fab, especially over the last year when I have had a lot of problems, has just left & at the moment, there is no replacement. I'm about to change from Cimzia to Humira but I would be surprised if everything went to plan!

Hope you do well on the MTX & if not, I'm sure you will find the right meds in the end. Trial & error sometimes,
take care,
Jayne x

julie_warwick
#20 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 12:40:57 PM Quote
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thanks everyone. nice to hear from Jayne that mtx helped. kind of give up on it.. it's week 12 so you never know ! x
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